Ted's Thoughts on Weapon Types

[Emtedroni]

Different types of weapons have different kinds of standard buffs and debuffs apart from their wielder's stat buffs. Like my post on Damage Types, the purpose of this thread is to expand/pool our knowledge.

When Bayron, Klorin and I (apologies if I've missed any other GM weapon makers) are making Legendary Weapons come the Fall Expansion, we'd like everyone to know just what type of weapon suits their style of combat the best (for example I like Tedroni to use swords, spears and daggers, though I am fast growing fond of my mace).

Speed is also a key ingredient when choosing a weapon. Higher numbers are slower (and generally consume less power per second of combat), lower numbers are faster (and generally make the fight shorter).

Some weapons are made by weaponsmiths, others are made by woodworkers.

Axe (1 & 2-handed) -[2.4, 3.1]-weaponsmith- can reduce armor value ;D

Bow -[~2.4]-woodworker- increased critical hit chance (but only on auto-attacks)

Club (1 & 2-handed) -[1.8, 2.6]-woodworker(?)- can slow target's attack speed

Crossbow -[2.4]-woodworker- auto-attacks (ranged only) are harder to block

Dagger (1-handed) -[1.7]-weaponsmith- increased critical hit chance (but only on auto-attacks) ;D

Halberd (2-handed) -[3.3]-weaponsmith- greater aggro

Hammer (1 & 2-handed) -[2.4 & ~3]-woodworker- can reduce evade chance ;D

Mace -[2.3]-weaponsmith- has a chance to stun

Spear -[1.9]-woodworker- has a chance to bleed (damage over time) ;D

Sword (1 & 2-handed) -[2.0, 2.8]-weaponsmith- increased hit chance ;D

Staff (2-handed) -[2.5]-woodworker- staves seem to be able to hold more buffs than other weapons that deal similar amounts of damage, but otherwise seem to have no inherent buff/debuff.

Thrown Weapon -weaponsmith- pulling weapon

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Not all classes can use all the different weapon types.

Burglars - Clubs, Daggers, Maces, 1-H Swords, Thrown Weapons

Captains - Axes, Clubs, Daggers, Halberds, Hammers, Maces, Spears, Swords

Champions - Axes, Bows, 1-H Clubs, Daggers, Hammers, Maces, Swords, and Thrown Weapons ;D

Guardians - Axes, Bows, Clubs, Crossbows, Daggers, Hammers, Maces, Swords, and Thrown Weapons

Hunters - 1-H Axes, Bows, Daggers, and 1-H Swords

Lore Masters - Staff, and 1-H Sword (with slotted trait )

Minstrels - 1-H Axes (with slotted trait), 1-H Club, Dagger, Mace, and 1-H Sword

[duedermont]

You need to add spears to the weapons that Captains can use as just recently discovered. Thanks again for the spear Bayron ;D

[Drauglin]

Oooh, quality burglars like we have in Orome's Army can also use clubs now - - part of our upgrade with book 12! = = My staddlestick is at the ready if we ever come up against giant spiders!

[Ukki]

Now I've always heard, and to some degree believed that the weapon procs ... ie, increased hit, stun, bleed, armor reduction, demoralize effects ect ... only counted for auto attacks. Though maybe Demoralize doesn't fit into that category since its not an inherent weapon proc.

Has anyone been able to confirm or debunk this? I'm just curious because I've always ignored procs because if they only do happen on auto attacks then they seem almost useless for me anyway. I know champs and burgs and such get way more autos than hunters do so it would be way more important to them.

Its been a really hard thing for me to try to test and figure out so I'm still clueless on that matter.

[Emtedroni]

That's a darn good question, Ukki. I'll see what I can do by way of testing, however I know maces stun on non-auto-attacks, as well as auto-attacks.

[Drauglin]

You're correct about the maces Ted - - that's why no self respecting burglar uses maces . . . . . darn things stun your opponent, and then when you desperately need a CJ . . . . you have to wait 45 seconds or more to throw it.

[Ukki]

Thats good to know. I didn't actually think about that because I'm so used to the WoW style of rogue that you wanted stun weaps to keep the chain going. But of course LotR has fixed the stun chain problem with the immunity. I've been having to relearn how to play the stealth class on my burg

Now if they would only implement it into the Moores ... *sigh* dang wargs ...